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	<title>Comments on: My Imaginary 401(k)</title>
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	<description>Money issues for college students and 20-somethings, without being boring.</description>
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		<title>By: Lazy Man</title>
		<link>http://poorerthanyou.com/2007/08/17/my-imaginary-401k/#comment-14847</link>
		<dc:creator>Lazy Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 21:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but you have to remember that inflation chugs along at 3-4% as well, so a million dollars isn&#039;t going to give you a million dollars worth of buying power.  If you want to go with that 8%, it&#039;s really closer to 4%.  Remember how much difference that 1% made going from 8% to 9% and 9% to 10%?  Well now it&#039;s working against you since you just lost 3-4% off the top.  That makes $15,500 really worth about $90,500 after 45 years.  That&#039;s still a nice salary for a year though right?  Well you have to pay income tax on that.  At 28% you&#039;ll be left with around $65,000.  There are some 401k administration fees and mutual fund fees along the way and this will bite into the profits more.

I&#039;m not trying to scare people from saving, they should definitely max out their 401Ks.  However, I want to save people from thinking as I once did - you can just invest for 2-3 years and then retire rich with your millions, never having to contribute another penny.  

If there is no match, you may be better off foregoing the 401k and investing in a Roth IRA.  This is especially true if you are in a low tax bracket now and expect to be in a higher one in the future (as the example seems to indicate).

One thing I&#039;m unclear on, since I don&#039;t get a match... is the $15,500 limit a contribution by yourself or does that include your company&#039;s as well.  If the account is limited to stop at $15,500, then you be getting more than that, you&#039;ll just be contributing less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but you have to remember that inflation chugs along at 3-4% as well, so a million dollars isn&#8217;t going to give you a million dollars worth of buying power.  If you want to go with that 8%, it&#8217;s really closer to 4%.  Remember how much difference that 1% made going from 8% to 9% and 9% to 10%?  Well now it&#8217;s working against you since you just lost 3-4% off the top.  That makes $15,500 really worth about $90,500 after 45 years.  That&#8217;s still a nice salary for a year though right?  Well you have to pay income tax on that.  At 28% you&#8217;ll be left with around $65,000.  There are some 401k administration fees and mutual fund fees along the way and this will bite into the profits more.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not trying to scare people from saving, they should definitely max out their 401Ks.  However, I want to save people from thinking as I once did &#8211; you can just invest for 2-3 years and then retire rich with your millions, never having to contribute another penny.  </p>
<p>If there is no match, you may be better off foregoing the 401k and investing in a Roth IRA.  This is especially true if you are in a low tax bracket now and expect to be in a higher one in the future (as the example seems to indicate).</p>
<p>One thing I&#8217;m unclear on, since I don&#8217;t get a match&#8230; is the $15,500 limit a contribution by yourself or does that include your company&#8217;s as well.  If the account is limited to stop at $15,500, then you be getting more than that, you&#8217;ll just be contributing less.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Stuff Worth Reading, Because It&#8217;s Friday And You&#8217;re Probably Just As Bored As I Am &#124; Punny Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 20:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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