Comments on: Credit Card Paid Off! Now What? http://poorerthanyou.com/2008/08/06/credit-card-paid-off-now-what/ Talking about money, without being boring. Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:00:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Savngs Toolbox http://poorerthanyou.com/2008/08/06/credit-card-paid-off-now-what/comment-page-1/#comment-62696 Savngs Toolbox Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:25:21 +0000 http://poorerthanyou.com/2008/08/06/credit-card-paid-off-now-what/#comment-62696 Great post and great tips for college students. It's great to be able to get yourself out of debt but it is just as important to know what to do to keep yourself out of debt, especially during your college years - as it never gets any easier as an adult, especially one with a family. There are so many options to save money and it's really worth the effort to do a bit more homework while in school to find out the best options available. Check out the article we did about savings accounts online http://www.savingstoolbox.com/2008/08/13/how-to-compare-online-savings-accounts/. Great post, Stephanie! Nice concept! Savngs Toolbox's last blog post..<a href="http://www.savingstoolbox.com/2008/08/25/is-gold-a-solid-investment-vehicle-for-your-savings/">Is Gold a Solid Investment Vehicle For Your Savings?</a> Great post and great tips for college students. It’s great to be able to get yourself out of debt but it is just as important to know what to do to keep yourself out of debt, especially during your college years - as it never gets any easier as an adult, especially one with a family.

There are so many options to save money and it’s really worth the effort to do a bit more homework while in school to find out the best options available. Check out the article we did about savings accounts online http://www.savingstoolbox.com/2008/08/13/how-to-compare-online-savings-accounts/.

Great post, Stephanie! Nice concept!

Savngs Toolbox’s last blog post..Is Gold a Solid Investment Vehicle For Your Savings?

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By: Stephanie http://poorerthanyou.com/2008/08/06/credit-card-paid-off-now-what/comment-page-1/#comment-60372 Stephanie Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:34:40 +0000 http://poorerthanyou.com/2008/08/06/credit-card-paid-off-now-what/#comment-60372 @J - thanks for coming by the site and giving your insight! I'll be checking out your blog, for sure! Right now, the savings account is just to catch my money until I have enough to get a Roth IRA at Vanguard and fill it with their index funds! That's the plan, anyway. @J - thanks for coming by the site and giving your insight! I’ll be checking out your blog, for sure!

Right now, the savings account is just to catch my money until I have enough to get a Roth IRA at Vanguard and fill it with their index funds! That’s the plan, anyway.

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By: J http://poorerthanyou.com/2008/08/06/credit-card-paid-off-now-what/comment-page-1/#comment-60283 J Fri, 15 Aug 2008 05:28:07 +0000 http://poorerthanyou.com/2008/08/06/credit-card-paid-off-now-what/#comment-60283 One thing you might want to do is think about what you will do with funds collected for purposes like future expense funds and retirement. Done any research? The folks who sell professional investment advice are like mechanics, lawyers, and physicians -- it's hard to spot the good ones without an inside line, and the world is FULL of crummy operators who are just after your money. Sites like the Motley Fool like to pitch a do-it-yourself view, and I do that myself. My blog has some discussion of investment ideas, mostly looking so far at the quality of the reporting on different companies. If you plan to spend most of your time having fun and not reading about investments (this is the case for folks who don't find reading investment research fun), you may want to find a few companies with a long track record of building shareholder value (either by aggressively reinvesting profit at a good return, or paying substantial dividends to shareholders who can participate in a dividend reinvestment plan). I have a few companies I like in this space, but you will want to balance your interests when you pick for yourself. Leaving money in the bank is awful: interest doesn't meet inflation, so it's like withdrawing the money and every week burning some of the bills to amuse your parakeet. You need an inflation-beating return, and preferably a return that beats the major stock indexes. Lots of interesting ideas are out there, and some of them are on my blog, but you should be thinking early about how to turn today's spare money into a fortune in ten years. The power of compounding returns is great enough that you really don't want to be on the sidelines. One thing you might want to do is think about what you will do with funds collected for purposes like future expense funds and retirement. Done any research?

The folks who sell professional investment advice are like mechanics, lawyers, and physicians — it’s hard to spot the good ones without an inside line, and the world is FULL of crummy operators who are just after your money.

Sites like the Motley Fool like to pitch a do-it-yourself view, and I do that myself. My blog has some discussion of investment ideas, mostly looking so far at the quality of the reporting on different companies.

If you plan to spend most of your time having fun and not reading about investments (this is the case for folks who don’t find reading investment research fun), you may want to find a few companies with a long track record of building shareholder value (either by aggressively reinvesting profit at a good return, or paying substantial dividends to shareholders who can participate in a dividend reinvestment plan). I have a few companies I like in this space, but you will want to balance your interests when you pick for yourself.

Leaving money in the bank is awful: interest doesn’t meet inflation, so it’s like withdrawing the money and every week burning some of the bills to amuse your parakeet. You need an inflation-beating return, and preferably a return that beats the major stock indexes.

Lots of interesting ideas are out there, and some of them are on my blog, but you should be thinking early about how to turn today’s spare money into a fortune in ten years. The power of compounding returns is great enough that you really don’t want to be on the sidelines.

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By: Financial Planners at Respond http://poorerthanyou.com/2008/08/06/credit-card-paid-off-now-what/comment-page-1/#comment-59929 Financial Planners at Respond Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:21:55 +0000 http://poorerthanyou.com/2008/08/06/credit-card-paid-off-now-what/#comment-59929 The list is really good, but I would like to contribute some more fund for retirement. The list is really good, but I would like to contribute some more fund for retirement.

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By: Stephanie http://poorerthanyou.com/2008/08/06/credit-card-paid-off-now-what/comment-page-1/#comment-59728 Stephanie Mon, 11 Aug 2008 02:12:22 +0000 http://poorerthanyou.com/2008/08/06/credit-card-paid-off-now-what/#comment-59728 @Lori - A combination of the two, actually. I have several online savings accounts, because I've opened up a lot to get the bonuses they were offering at the time. So I'm just purposing each one for something different. I say it's a "combination" because I'm combining the textbooks fund and the getting established fund into one savings account, and keeping track of it on a spreadsheet. For your situation, my suggestion would be to use ING's online savings accounts. You can open multiple ones really fast (I timed it, each new one takes about 42 seconds!) and you can make some of them joint accounts with your finance, and keep others separate. If you'd like, I have <a href="http://poorerthanyou.com/25-ing-referrals/">referral links for ING</a>, so you could get a $25 bonus for opening an account with them. @Lori -

A combination of the two, actually. I have several online savings accounts, because I’ve opened up a lot to get the bonuses they were offering at the time. So I’m just purposing each one for something different.

I say it’s a “combination” because I’m combining the textbooks fund and the getting established fund into one savings account, and keeping track of it on a spreadsheet.

For your situation, my suggestion would be to use ING’s online savings accounts. You can open multiple ones really fast (I timed it, each new one takes about 42 seconds!) and you can make some of them joint accounts with your finance, and keep others separate. If you’d like, I have referral links for ING, so you could get a $25 bonus for opening an account with them.

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By: Lori http://poorerthanyou.com/2008/08/06/credit-card-paid-off-now-what/comment-page-1/#comment-59700 Lori Sun, 10 Aug 2008 23:48:54 +0000 http://poorerthanyou.com/2008/08/06/credit-card-paid-off-now-what/#comment-59700 Hi. First off, love your blog. Second, I have a question for you. You have all of these different things you are saving for, but how do you distinguish what money is for what goal? Do you keep things in separate accounts, or just keep a document on your computer that tells you how much is dedicated to each goal? I am starting a wedding fund, which I will put into its own high interest savings account with my fiance, but other than that I only have one savings and one checking account. Any recommendations? Hi. First off, love your blog. Second, I have a question for you. You have all of these different things you are saving for, but how do you distinguish what money is for what goal? Do you keep things in separate accounts, or just keep a document on your computer that tells you how much is dedicated to each goal?

I am starting a wedding fund, which I will put into its own high interest savings account with my fiance, but other than that I only have one savings and one checking account. Any recommendations?

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By: Don http://poorerthanyou.com/2008/08/06/credit-card-paid-off-now-what/comment-page-1/#comment-59333 Don Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:00:45 +0000 http://poorerthanyou.com/2008/08/06/credit-card-paid-off-now-what/#comment-59333 You might be right about the Roth. I've had my Roth so long that I don't remember those details now. I sort of vaguely remember that things can be different for emergencies, like medical expenses, as well. You might be right about the Roth. I’ve had my Roth so long that I don’t remember those details now. I sort of vaguely remember that things can be different for emergencies, like medical expenses, as well.

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By: Stephanie http://poorerthanyou.com/2008/08/06/credit-card-paid-off-now-what/comment-page-1/#comment-59165 Stephanie Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:37:46 +0000 http://poorerthanyou.com/2008/08/06/credit-card-paid-off-now-what/#comment-59165 @Don - Student loan interest is expected to be a total of $1500 in March, when I finish school. I know that $50 per month won't get me there in time - $50 is only the minimum I will save for the interest while also saving for my textbooks. Once my textbook fund is full (should be in September), then the Student Loan Interest will be baring the full brunt of my savings. I see what you're saying about the getting established and the emergency fund. But since they're both just savings accounts, the distinction is really just psychological. When the time comes to actually get established, I'll use what's in the fund for that, and if I need more, it will come out of the emergency fund. About the Roth, isn't there a rule that contributions may only be removed penalty free IF you wait five years before you take them out? I seem to remember that, but I gave away the book I read it in. @Don - Student loan interest is expected to be a total of $1500 in March, when I finish school. I know that $50 per month won’t get me there in time - $50 is only the minimum I will save for the interest while also saving for my textbooks. Once my textbook fund is full (should be in September), then the Student Loan Interest will be baring the full brunt of my savings.

I see what you’re saying about the getting established and the emergency fund. But since they’re both just savings accounts, the distinction is really just psychological. When the time comes to actually get established, I’ll use what’s in the fund for that, and if I need more, it will come out of the emergency fund.

About the Roth, isn’t there a rule that contributions may only be removed penalty free IF you wait five years before you take them out? I seem to remember that, but I gave away the book I read it in.

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By: Don http://poorerthanyou.com/2008/08/06/credit-card-paid-off-now-what/comment-page-1/#comment-59074 Don Thu, 07 Aug 2008 03:39:43 +0000 http://poorerthanyou.com/2008/08/06/credit-card-paid-off-now-what/#comment-59074 Student loan interest is $1500.... per what? Because at $50/month it is going to take about 30 months to get that total (i.e. you won't snowball for 2.5 years). Personally, it seems you are making this complex. For example, getting established is a one-time expense. Admittedly, you can anticipate it some, but in my mind it is just a kind of "mini-emergency". You take a hit on your emergency fund to get started, and you go back to building your emergency fund. In my mind, it's almost all "emergency fund." The difference is what balance you think you need for emergencies. If you know a car is in the future, then your goal is perhaps $20,000 instead of $10,000. And don't forget, you may be able to start your Roth a bit earlier than you think. You can take out your contributions without penalty. You shouldn't unless you have an emergency of course, but you can. So you could reasonably build your emergency fund to $5000 and then move $1000 in your Roth IRA. Invest it in money market funds if your really feel conservative and then your principal will be safe for you. Student loan interest is $1500…. per what? Because at $50/month it is going to take about 30 months to get that total (i.e. you won’t snowball for 2.5 years).

Personally, it seems you are making this complex. For example, getting established is a one-time expense. Admittedly, you can anticipate it some, but in my mind it is just a kind of “mini-emergency”. You take a hit on your emergency fund to get started, and you go back to building your emergency fund.

In my mind, it’s almost all “emergency fund.” The difference is what balance you think you need for emergencies. If you know a car is in the future, then your goal is perhaps $20,000 instead of $10,000.

And don’t forget, you may be able to start your Roth a bit earlier than you think. You can take out your contributions without penalty. You shouldn’t unless you have an emergency of course, but you can. So you could reasonably build your emergency fund to $5000 and then move $1000 in your Roth IRA. Invest it in money market funds if your really feel conservative and then your principal will be safe for you.

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By: Stephanie http://poorerthanyou.com/2008/08/06/credit-card-paid-off-now-what/comment-page-1/#comment-59052 Stephanie Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:03:15 +0000 http://poorerthanyou.com/2008/08/06/credit-card-paid-off-now-what/#comment-59052 Thank you everyone for your comments so far! I'm so glad that you guys are enjoying my blog - it makes me really happy to hear that! A note about the retirement savings: I know that I'm foregoing some compound interest, but the problem is that compound interest works both ways. Money trapped in a retirement account isn't very good for me if I have to tap into my credit card to pay for the basics. I want to start contributing, but there are some pressing expenses that will come in order for me to get off on my own, and to the point where I'm making enough to save for retirement. Sorry if that wasn't clear! Also, in terms of fun money, I'll gonna sit on that for a little bit. I've done quite a bit of traveling in college, actually, some of which was reflected in my credit card balance! Nowadays, I'm enjoying traveling to interesting places close by - it's cheaper and I get to see new sights in my home city. When I reevaluate in a few months, maybe a travel fund will sneak its way in there ;) Thank you everyone for your comments so far! I’m so glad that you guys are enjoying my blog - it makes me really happy to hear that!

A note about the retirement savings: I know that I’m foregoing some compound interest, but the problem is that compound interest works both ways. Money trapped in a retirement account isn’t very good for me if I have to tap into my credit card to pay for the basics. I want to start contributing, but there are some pressing expenses that will come in order for me to get off on my own, and to the point where I’m making enough to save for retirement. Sorry if that wasn’t clear!

Also, in terms of fun money, I’ll gonna sit on that for a little bit. I’ve done quite a bit of traveling in college, actually, some of which was reflected in my credit card balance! Nowadays, I’m enjoying traveling to interesting places close by - it’s cheaper and I get to see new sights in my home city. When I reevaluate in a few months, maybe a travel fund will sneak its way in there ;)

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