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Reader Question: Student Loan to Pay Off Debts?

By Stephanie, updated June 6, 2007 34 Comments
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“Is taking out a student loan and using it to pay off most debts or at least ‘control’ the debts a wise idea in the long run?” – D

First, a technicality: You can’t actually use a student loan for this purpose. Student loans are usually awarded with the stipulation that you use them for school-related expenses only. But, what you can do (and what I assume you’re asking) is get a student loan, and take the out-of-pocket money you were going to use for tuition/books/etc., and pay off/pay down your debts with that.

To know if this is a good idea, you really need to ask yourself some questions first.

How much student debt am I willing to take on?
If it were me, I wouldn’t go this route, because I’m already staring down the barrel of $40,000 in undergraduate debt. But if this loan will still leave you with a “comfortable level” of student debt, you might be alright. The MSN Money article “How much college debt is too much?” can help you calculate how much college debt you can safely take on.

What am I using this money to pay for, exactly?
From your question, I’m guessing you’re looking to pay off credit cards, or possibly a car loan. Either way, some kind of consumer debt. Understand that there’s a difference between these kinds of debts. Namely, a student loan never goes away. Even if you file for bankruptcy. And although a student loan rate may be more favorable, it also has a long repayment term (10-30 years).

Can I stop accumulating debt?
If this is consumer debt, then you will need to stop once you get the loan. Stop carrying a balance on your credit card. Or, if it’s a car loan, then you can’t run out and trade in your car for a new one just because your loan is paid off. If you feel you can exercise the needed amount of restraint, then alright.

How’s my credit?
If you’re getting this student loan through a private institution (a bank rather than the government), and your credit history isn’t very long, you’ll likely need a co-signer on your loan. A co-signer will be on the hook if you don’t pay the loan, so whoever it is needs to know your intentions with this loan.

Alternately, if your credit is good, you have another option. Get a credit card with a 0% intro APR on balance transfers, and move your debt over there. This is really the better option, if your credit is good enough.

Does this seem like a good idea to me?
How you feel about this is actually very important. The fact that you came to me with this question means you’re having doubts. After you think this through, if you’re still doubting it, then it’s probably not a good course of action. After you’ve considered your situation, your gut instinct will help you find your conclusion.

No, I Don’t Think You Should Open a Roth IRA

By Stephanie, updated June 5, 2007 7 Comments
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I do, in fact, have a love affair with the Roth IRA. (If you’re unfamiliar withÂ it, J.D. has an excellent explanation of the Roth.) But, it is an unrequited love – the Roth does not love me back. Someday, it will. Someday, I will open my own Roth IRA and my money (and love) will grow inside it. But not yet.

A friend of mine asked me what a Roth IRA is, and whether I should get one. I sent him J.D.’s link, but I also said I didn’t think he should get one. Yet. For the same reason that I don’t have one. Yet.

We’re both carrying around some nasty, high interest credit card debt. Sure, we could start putting money into Roths, and if the Investment Gods shined down upon us, we could earn around 10% on our money each year, and the power of compounding would give us a tasty retirement. But if we’re still carrying around our credit card debt (at 17% or higher!), then we’d just beÂ back-pedaling. We’d beÂ paying more to the credit card companies than we’d earn.

This is where the difference between investing in a 401(k) and an IRA can really be seen. If your employer offers matching funds in your 401(k), then it makes sense to contribute, even if you’re carrying around credit card debt. But there’s probably no one matching your IRA contributions (unless you have a generous relative – in which case, go for it).

So, my friend and I, we’ve got some credit card debt to tackle. Once we’re clear of that… well, I know I’ll be beginning my sordid affair with the Roth!

I’ve Got a Job… Now What?

By Stephanie, updated May 30, 2007 3 Comments
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Two friends separately contacted me yesterday with the same question: “I have a full time job now… what do I do?” (They both play the trombone too, it’s kinda eerie.) I understand where they’re coming from. With a sudden influx of money comes this daunting feeling that you should really take control of your finances. But… how?

I’m going to give you guys a warning, though: if you came looking for the sexy answer, you’re barking up the wrong blonde blogger. I’m not going to give you a one-liner like “invest in gold and you’ll be set for life!” Sorry, but I’m going to give you the real down and dirty (that sounds sexy too… but it’s not).

Step 1: The Fun Part
Estimate your income. This is easier to do after your first paycheck, because then you can see exactly what percentage they’ll be swiping up for taxes. But even if you haven’t received that first paycheck yet, estimate away. You can adjust it later.

Step 2: The Depressing Part
Estimate your expenses – a new jobs means they’ve likely changed. I recommend you download and use PearBudget – it’s a free, really easy to use program that runs in Excel. Or, at least use the Pear way of dividing up your expenses:

Regular expenses: monthly expenses that don’t change in amount. E.G. Rent, car insurance, cell phone bill, savings…
Irregular expenses: “things that come up a couple of times a year that you know you need to budget for. For example, you know you’ll spend about $1,800 on car maintenance over the year, but you won’t pay it on a regular schedule. So you budget $150 every month into “Car Maintenance,” and then, on some sad day, you’ll have to give the mechanic all that money.” Other examples: gifts, travel…
Variable expenses: monthly expenses that vary in amount. E.G. groceries, dining out, gas for the car…

Step 3: Try Not to Faint
Take your estimated income for one month, and your expenses for one month… and hope that the first one is larger than the second one. Actually, if you included savings in your expenses, they should be the exact same number. But, they probably aren’t. So… “what do I do…”

“…if my income is more than my expenses?”
In all seriousness, this is a question you would probably never ask me. But if you truly estimated all your expenses accurately, and you came up with this, then you do have a problem. I know at least one of you has some hefty credit card debt playing the monkey on your back. And you need to deal with that. For serious!

Don’t put anything more on those credit cards. Not a red cent. Go cut them up, now. I know, I’m a mean Stephanie, and I don’t want you have any fun. Deal with it. Don’t charge anything else until you’ve paid them both off. (Hey, at least I didn’t tell you to sell your trombone!)
Use that extra cash to really, really work on paying down that debt. I’m assuming it’s high interest, and it’s definitely dragging your credit score down at this point. Just remember, if you only make the minimum payments, it’ll probably take you upwards of 30 years to pay off those cards. I don’t know about you, but I certainly don’t want to meet up when you and I are 50+ and find out that you’re still paying off some charge from 2006.

And if you don’t have any nasty credit card debt? Pump up your savings, and feel mighty proud. Also, know that I hate you.

“… if my expenses are more than my income?”
Ouch… but this was always a likely scenario. You’re going to have to cut down an expense. And no, don’t go for the savings first – that’s like sticking a knife in your own jugular. I’m not going to tell you what expenses you should trim, because I know you’re smart, and you’re the one that has to live with the decision. Find some fat, and trim it.

Make sure you do put away some savings, though. Even if it’s just a dollar a week, get in the habit. It takes about 3 months to establish a weekly habit, so by then you’ll have over $12 (whoopee!), but more importantly, a good habit for life.

Step 4: Just Do It
Live your life, track your expenses, adjust PearBudget (or your tracking system of choice) as you go along. There really isn’t any secret formula – in fact, I’m rather sure there wasn’t anything here that you didn’t already know… somewhere in the back of your mind.

Oh, and about that savings: make sure you’re putting it somewhere that beats inflation, like a high yield savings account. You know how much I love ING Direct (aff), but so long as you’re saving, I’m happy.

State of the War Address

By Stephanie, updated May 21, 2007 5 Comments
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Greetings, my fellow debt-fighters. I stand here before you, a general in this War on Debt! Though I only enlisted some four months ago, I have been fighting this war for much longer… since The Debt led a sneak attack against me when I began my university education. But I have joined up, and I’m taking the fight to them! Here are how things have progressed since my “Resolutions are for sissies!” speech:

The Main Objectives

Get a job: I have a part time job now, and this website has become a part-time job on it’s own. I’m also looking for some other income streams, because money is my ammunition, and I need a lot of it.

Sell something on eBay: Ok, I haven’t yet. But I have sold several textbooks and some furniture using other internet sites, so it’s a start. Getting ready for the move to the suburbs is unearthing a lot of items to sell (for ammunition)!

Get rid of all this stuff: I’ve been going through everything in the process of packing. I’m really hoping to get it down to a bare minimum, which really requires going through each box of “stuff” multiple times. I burned a lot of stuff in a bonfire this past weekend (which was awesome).

Make a budget… again: I’ve actually kept on top of my spending and my budget (which is really just a balance sheet) this whole time. It’s a habit now, and I freak out if it gets messed up. Point is, I know exactly how money has flown in and out of my life since the beginning of 2007.

Start a retirement fund – for serious: Nope, haven’t done this. I really don’t think I will until my credit card is paid off, and I’ve started a mini emergency fund.

Go back to school: Currently, it looks like I should be back for the Fall 2007 term. Woot!

Pay off my credit card: I haven’t made as much progress as I would like, but that could change very soon. Now that I have my part time job, I’ll have more ammunition to throw at this Axis of Evil!

Secondary Objectives

Pay off my car: Been making steady progress, but even better, it looks like my loan may be forgiven after this month’s payment. Either my grandmother, who is the one I bought the car from, will just forgive the loan, or my mother will pay the rest off for me (I may, however, have to start making payments to her, if she does that!). If the loan is forgiven, that’s one Enemy Nation of Debt conquered, and I can take all the troops that were fighting there, and direct themÂ at Credit Cardonia and The United Forces of Student Loan.

Get a better job: I’m not gonna lie, I like my new job, and because it’s all online work, I can do it from anywhere (I’ll likely live out half the summer in Los Angeles) and I can continue to do it when I go back to school. Still, I’m on the lookout for additional streams of income, and may even start another business when I go back to school. More ammunition!

Organize a killer garage sale: So far, this has consisted of packing up boxes of stuff to sell. The garage sale will probably take place just before or just after we move (July 1st).

Start up that business I thought of: This really isn’t relevant until I go back to school.

Start up some other business I haven’t thought of yet: No ideas percolating right now, but I’ll let you know.

Try out Prosper: As a lender, I mean. This is probably also a “after I have defeated the credit card” thing.

Start a protest outside a Wal-Mart: Not yet, but it’s always possible!

Final Thoughts

This war may never be truly over. There will be conflicts with The United Forces of Student Loan for a long time yet. And if our imperialist nature brings us to conquering a house of our own, we can expect attacks from Greater Mortgage Payment. However, all is not lost, so long as the interest rates are low, our aim true, and our payments on time.

Alternate Debt Snowball Theory: How Annoyed Are You?

By Stephanie, updated April 7, 2007 39 Comments
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There is a secret war going on in the personal finance blogosphere. No one talks about it openly, but it the battles break out everywhere. No blog post is safe! No blog post about “Debt Snowballing,” anyway.

If you don’t know the Debt Snowball Theory, it goes like this: in order to pay off all your debts, you rank them all up. You make the minimum payments on all of them each month, and you throw every extra cent you have at the debt ranked highest, until it’s paid off. Then, you “snowball” your payments for that debt into the next highest ranked debt, and continue on down the line.

The war is over how these debts should be ranked. There are two theories, each with valid points, which is why the war will never end.

Theory #1: High Interest – Rank your debts by interest rate, highest to lowest, and pay off the highest interest rate debts first.

Pro: Math-wise, this one wins. You’ll spend less money over time on interest this way.

Con: Your highest interest debts may also be your highest balances, meaning it might be a long time before you actually pay off that first debt. This can discourage some people, making them give up before they even pay off the first debt.

Theory #2: Low Balance (The Dave Ramsey Theory) – Rank your debts by balance, lowest to highest, and pay off the lowest balance debts first.

Pro: It won’t be long before your first debt is paid off, giving you an awesome sense of accomplishment, and encouraging you to continue on.

Con: Math wise, you lose, because you’ll probably pay more in interest this way.

Of course you want to know where I stand in this war. Look, people, I’m a math girl. I love numbers and data. So I’m in the “High Interest” army. But I certainly recognize the benefits of the “other side,” and I’m not going to knock anyone for going that way. In fact, if I had a really low balance debt, I’d probably pay it off first as well, to get it off my mind.

Theory #3: The Annoyance Ranking
I promised you an alternate theory, and here it is: Rank your debts in the order that they annoy you to have to pay, from “most annoying” to “least annoying,” and pay off the annoying ones first. The idea is that when the bills come, there are some bills that make you groan and moan more than others.

Let’s take The Boyfriend for example. He has two debts: his car loan, and his credit card debt. The Boyfriend loves his car to pieces, and doesn’t really mind making his loan payments every month. But his credit card? He hates it with a fiery passion. He curses it while shaking his fist up at the sky.

Basically, his credit card debt annoys the crap out of him. So, accord to my Annoyance Debt Snowball Plan, he should pay that one off first.

Why is this a good plan? Because, like the “Low Balance” theory, it plays to your human psychology. The top debts are making you more unhappy than the bottom debts, so pay them off first. Also, since you’re more likely to be annoyed by high interest debts than low interest debts, it takes the “High Interest” theory into account as well.

This theory is also good for when you have personal debts, especially family debts. These debts may be low balance and low interest, which would normally rank low in a debt snowball. But you probably feel a large amount of guilt over these debts, which would make them annoying. Putting them at the top of the ranking, and paying them first, will help improve your family relations, and perhaps prevent you from being shot in both kneecaps and lit on fire.

Pros:

Be rid of debts that make you unhappy.

Math usually works since high interest debts are more likely to be more annoying.

Con:

Math might not work, may end up paying more interest.

Feel free to add more “pros and cons” in the comments if you think of any!